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		<title>What is &#8220;Good&#8221; and &#8220;Bad&#8221;?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[  What is &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221;?  What is &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221;?  Are these concepts merely constructs of a collective societal will?   A sort of sum of a group&#8217;s preferences with some averaging applied to come up with a generally agreed upon &#8220;standard&#8221;?  Is right and wrong based on preferences?  Let&#8217;s explore this idea.   One [...]]]></description>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">What is &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221;?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>What is &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221;?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Are these concepts merely constructs of a collective societal will?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>A sort of sum of a group&#8217;s preferences with some averaging applied to come up with a generally agreed upon &#8220;standard&#8221;?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is right and wrong based on preferences?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Let&#8217;s explore this idea.</p>
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<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">One person named Bob has an opinion/feeling about prematurely ending the life of newborn puppies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Terminating newborn puppies makes him feel good inside and he has always felt deeply that newborn puppies should not be allowed to live.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>To Bob it seems like such a conventional, inner belief that he has a hard time understanding how anyone could feel otherwise.</p>
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<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The remaining individuals in Bob&#8217;s neighborhood, 10 people in all, deeply feel that prematurely terminating the life of newborn puppies is wrong.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Deeply wrong.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>They have even attached harsh terms to this practice, calling it &#8220;murder&#8221; or &#8220;atrocity&#8221; or &#8220;crime&#8221;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>So the 10 individuals decide to band together to &#8220;protect the rights&#8221; of puppies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>They form a group called &#8220;Puppies are Precious&#8221; and form a written, prescriptive edict declaring that all puppies are precious and that their lives should be protected, enriched, and prolonged to the maximum degree possible.</p>
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<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">One morning Bob is interrupted from his daily task of prematurely terminating the lives of a few puppies by a stern knock at the door.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>With some degree of perturbation he answers the door in his blood-stained apron, knife in hand, only to find 10, first angry then increasingly horrified neighbors standing in his front yard.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A representative of the group collects himself enough to inform Bob that it is entirely, and absolutely wrong to &#8220;murder&#8221; innocent puppies and that Bob must cease and desist this &#8220;atrocious&#8221; act immediately.</p>
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<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Bob, who highly values his relationship with his neighbors is thoughtful for a moment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Then as his desire for peace and good relations gives way to righteous indignation he answers the representative by asking &#8220;Or what?&#8221;.</p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This stuns the representative, who looks back at his fellow &#8220;PP&#8221; group members for reassurance.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>After retiring into the group for a short dialog he rejoins Bob by declaring that the group would normally attempt to bring about change with neighbors through diplomacy but that the &#8220;heinous&#8221; nature of Bob&#8217;s &#8220;crime&#8221; demands that their group stop him with force if he does not willingly concede to their demands.</p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Now it is Bob&#8217;s turn to be stunned.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>He had already been completely unprepared for this dialog, and now this threat of force by 10 individuals set him to stammering for a reply.</p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Immediately sensing their advantage, the group pressed Bob with further threats, and informed him that there would be a delegation that would inspect his home weekly for the next 3 months to look for signs of the afore mentioned &#8220;crime&#8221;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Additionally a separate delegation would meet with Bob weekly to set about teaching him the ethical principle that puppy&#8217;s lives are precious.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The group sincerely hopes that Bob can be brought back into the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; through education.</p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </p>
<p style="FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Bob, who was outmatched by the power of the group is forced to agree to these terms, although in his heart he still &#8220;knows&#8221; that he is right.</p>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Who is right?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Why would the opinion of 10 individuals be more legitimate than that of 1?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Who is it that dictates that the more powerful group&#8217;s idea is right?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Does the issue simply come down to who holds power?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is an individual likely to be converted to a more powerful group&#8217;s opinion of right and wrong as a result of being forced to comply with their wishes?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is it possible that the individual will retain their view and still practice their heart-felt belief insomuch as they can do so without detection by the more powerful group?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>What is the opinion of the puppies?</p>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Objections</p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">==========</p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It seems self-evident that this view of ethics is not commensurate with human experience, or at least is lacking in precision.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>With some variation, humans seem to have a &#8220;built in&#8221; concept of right and wrong and it seems to be universal.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>One would be hard-pressed to find a culture where cowardliness was thought to be a virtue.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Or where lying was thought to be &#8220;good form&#8221; by the one lied to.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Or where indiscriminately taking the life of newborn puppies was thought to be &#8220;good&#8221;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>So the seemingly inherent, universal concept of good and evil in people (with some few exceptions) seems to indicate something beyond preference.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>It seems to indicate a pre-programmed moral compass which directs toward a fixed point or standard.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A standard which is broader than any single person or isolated society.</p>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Where does this universal moral standard come from if it is broader than the individual or isolated society?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Is it genetic and therefore a product of evolution?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>It seems that many of our moral concepts lead to conclusions that are counter-productive to evolution&#8217;s driving force, &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The fittest survives by pragmatism, not by principle.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The fittest does whatever is necessary in any given scenario to ensure their survival.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Lying, cheating, cowardliness, etc. are all completely acceptable to the pragmatist if these traits further the goal of surviving and prospering.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Any self-less actions have no place in a moral standard created by evolution.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Yet more commonly than not we approve whole-heartedly of those who perform self-less acts.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>While we may not understand such acts, or may feel such acts are beyond what we could or would do, yet we seem to think of them as &#8220;good&#8221;, and many times wish we could be more like that self-less person.</p>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Conclusions</p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">===========</p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If the moral standard&#8217;s source is not an evolutionary process then what is it?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>There are perhaps several possibilities but one plausible explanation is that there is a standard of right and wrong that is higher than human preference.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A standard that&#8217;s source is external to ourselves but that has been integrated into who we are as humans.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A standard set by a moral law giver.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A law giver with the inherent right to say to human beings, &#8220;you may do this, you may not do the other&#8221;, and with the power to integrate this standard into our being.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Following this line of reasoning, this lawgiver would most likely be the creator since the one who makes a thing is most likely to have access to the thing&#8217;s &#8220;inner programming&#8221; and who other than the creator of a thing has the right to demand that the thing adhere to a standard?</p>
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